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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129937</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129938</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129937</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129937</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129936</link>
		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NRL 2011 Grand Final by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129938</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129937</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129936</link>
		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129935</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-121020</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-121020</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NRL 2011 Grand Final by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129937</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129936</link>
		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129934</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NRL 2011 Grand Final by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Kelvin Jeffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Jeffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.

It&#039;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.

If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#039;d be crucified and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but reinforcing the idea that people should be treated differently or separately based on their race is disgraceful.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this kind of misguided thinking that marginalises people and prevents them from feeling like a part of the wider community.</p>
<p>If somebody proposed the idea of an African-American vs Caucasian football team in the US, they&#8217;d be crucified and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. 

Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and views. It makes sense that this can often end in disagreement. What doesnt really fit on this page is when a case needs to be strengthened by making it personal. I dont exactly agree with Shaun on this one, but I very much respect his right to his own opinions and views. </p>
<p>Makes you realise how good it will be in a few weeks when its just about your team against another and Rugby League takes the wheel, politics having to sit in the back and be quiet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Arcturus, 

Just two points. 

1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. 

2. As crude as the &quot;Black v White&quot; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#039;t you?

Oh and I find the term &quot;Captain Sidelined&quot; very offensive given I&#039;m a Brigadier General.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Arcturus, </p>
<p>Just two points. </p>
<p>1. Beetson coached an Indigenous side back in 1999 and was then pushing for a Indigenous team to play the Kangaroos on Australia day. His own son has recently stated that Big Artie liked the concept. </p>
<p>2. As crude as the &#8220;Black v White&#8221; term is, you did look at the  make up of the NRL All Stars side before you wrote this didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Oh and I find the term &#8220;Captain Sidelined&#8221; very offensive given I&#8217;m a Brigadier General.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Arcturus</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129936</link>
		<dc:creator>Arcturus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#039;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &quot;honour&quot; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. 

These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#039;t say they aren&#039;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &quot;acceptable&quot; but are somehow &quot;not racist&quot;. 

Sooo.. what&#039;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through..... guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#039;m sick of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rant &amp; rave, point your finger, say what you want but nothing you or anyone can ever change is the simple fact that separation based upon race is  disgraceful.  Artie Beetson spent his entire sporting life trying to end  racism in sport &amp; he&#8217;d be fucking ashamed to not only see that teams are being drawn up &amp; divided based upon skin colour to &#8220;honour&#8221; him but also to see that there are still a few muppets living in Deliverance-Land who think that Black vs White is a somehow a good idea. </p>
<p>These players who are now being divided by skin colour (and don&#8217;t say they aren&#8217;t being divided, they are) are team mates &amp; brothers with all number of players from their own team &amp; other teams. Of different races/skin colours, religions &amp; sexualities during the League season yet for some reason now it seems that despite the amazing oppourtunity for ANYONE to work hard &amp; prove themselves as a human being &amp; as an athlete, teams based upon your race &amp; the tint of ones skin are not only &#8220;acceptable&#8221; but are somehow &#8220;not racist&#8221;. </p>
<p>Sooo.. what&#8217;s next? Gay vs straight league? Muslim vs Jew? Jew vs Christian? Captain Sidelined can rant &amp; rave as much as he/she wants regarding how he/she thinks it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to create teams along racial lines &amp; then pit them against each other for fun but ANYONE with a fraction of a functioning brain has to realise that this is racism 100% &amp; without a doubt. Black vs white? Fine according to Captain Sidelined. Gay vs straight? Also excellent &amp; worthy of celebration. Bugger the fact we all bleed  red &amp; that the worthless fallacies that we use to separate us are nothing more than excuses for our own prejudices, Captain Sidelined wants you to think that this kind of division is a good thing. Sorry but Captain Sidelined is DEAD wrong &amp; by the very example of his/her words seems determined to be a part of the problem. Unity can only come about through&#8230;.. guess what? UNITY, never through division &amp; separation.  Racism is definitely alive &amp; well in Australia. The most shameful aspect of that is it seems people want those of European descent to be ashamed of not only their heritage but the colour of their skin. I&#8217;m sick of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129935</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone from aboriginal background who truly wanted to get off their ass would have done because many of them have. They are offered everything in sight and its never good enough. You can definitely lead horses to water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. 

There  is an &quot;other&quot; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. 

As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. 

The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &quot;Learn, Earn, Legend&quot; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. 

Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. 

And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB, good to see you are back for another year. Been thinking about the Panthers as I work on season previews. </p>
<p>There  is an &#8220;other&#8221; Australia. One where  life expectancy if a good 15 years less than the average (and one of the lowest for inidegnous populations). One where the infant mortality rate is higher than the average. One where  the population has health issues twice the normal rate.  So when these disadvantages (and others) still exist how can people move on? Move on to where? Remember it is not just about what happened 230 years ago but also what has happened since. </p>
<p>As to the question about whether the goverment can do any more, such a discussion is probably beyond a footy blog. However  I will say the problem it not so much that the goverment has been involved but that, and this goes for both sides, the government has been paternalistic and non-consultative  in its approach. </p>
<p>The Indigenous jumpers will carry the &#8220;Learn, Earn, Legend&#8221; motto. This is part of Closing the Gap initiative and  activities surrounding the game focus on that. Which goes to show that while the All Stars game is about  recognising the contribution of Indigenous players to the game, it is also about reminding us that as Australians we have a shared responsibility to close the gap. </p>
<p>Which is the trouble I have with exhorations to get over what has happened and look to the future.  It ignores the present. </p>
<p>And and better comparison in regards to the US would not be African-Americans but Native Americans. <img src='http://sidelined.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Mountain Boy</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-129933</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#039;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings all. Nothing like starting the year with some spice. I for one have never been a fan of the Indigenous v Caucasian Australian + Other Internationals concept. I don&#8217;t see it as racist, but nor do I see it as progressive. I believe that what seems like a novelty event and a bit of fun actually does more harm than good.  Giving people an impression that Indigenous Australian is different to Other Australian, to me, is, well, Un-Australian. I think amongst all the things T.Abbott is wrong about, he is right about the fact that the government has done just about all it can to help people of aboriginal background to start helping themselves and be part of one big happy productive country. This land of opportunity hand feeds those that still feel pursecuted from the wrongs of 230 odd years ago, yet the large majority of those continue to build a wall against progression, whilst never flinching at holding their hands out every second Thursday, instead of just getting on with it. A very small percentage have broken the mould and exceeded in their chosen field to the highest levels, and to those I take my hat off to, but no less hat taking-off than to those just out there having a go. As an analogy, Negro-America seems very much to have moved on in a far more bigotted country than ours. I say this not as an Indigenous Australian, nor as a Caucasian Australian. Nonetheless I am Australian, have been since day one, yet not as proud as I could be knowing that backwards continues to be the new forwards. The irony of course, is that while the concept for this game would have been thought up as a great showcase of what those of aboriginal background can achieve, its really just more fuel for the us vs them fire.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://sidelined.com.au/2012/01/21/why-the-nrl-indigenous-all-stars-match-is-not-racist/comment-page-1/#comment-121020</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). 

Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens in the darker conerns of the internet or Twitter (and most likely Facebook as well). </p>
<p>Looking forward to the Bunnies game against Warrington next weekend if only for it marking the start of the trials.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the NRL Indigenous All Stars match is not racist by Bismark O'Measles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bismark O'Measles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shaun - welcome back!

Maybe I&#039;m naive but I&#039;ve never met a &quot;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&quot; - I don&#039;t think we&#039;d get along well.

I for one can&#039;t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shaun &#8211; welcome back!</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m naive but I&#8217;ve never met a &#8220;cretin who promolugates this nonsense&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d get along well.</p>
<p>I for one can&#8217;t wait.</p>
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		<title>Comment on NRL 2011 Grand Final by Mountain Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 21:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldnt have taken long to work out if you get tackled one on one with Watmough, he&#039;s gonna try and strip you. He must have thought all week to come up with that one whilst urinating in public. Still a bit of extra awareness on the Warriors part in that regard could have done wonders. Manu also drops two attacking bombs, but then who really expected him to go mistake-free?

I think the cake for Rabs could be shared with the shock Foran no-try, when bloody fantastic but up til now strange-new-never-before-seen slow-mo close ups showed he lost control. I wasn&#039;t sure what to be more confused about - Rabs eyesight in relation to the big screen, or in his case a TV monitor in front of him, or these decisive replay technologies that had been under wraps for so long. Note all the normal replays very much showed a try, whilst just one look with the new stuff told the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldnt have taken long to work out if you get tackled one on one with Watmough, he&#8217;s gonna try and strip you. He must have thought all week to come up with that one whilst urinating in public. Still a bit of extra awareness on the Warriors part in that regard could have done wonders. Manu also drops two attacking bombs, but then who really expected him to go mistake-free?</p>
<p>I think the cake for Rabs could be shared with the shock Foran no-try, when bloody fantastic but up til now strange-new-never-before-seen slow-mo close ups showed he lost control. I wasn&#8217;t sure what to be more confused about &#8211; Rabs eyesight in relation to the big screen, or in his case a TV monitor in front of him, or these decisive replay technologies that had been under wraps for so long. Note all the normal replays very much showed a try, whilst just one look with the new stuff told the truth.</p>
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